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The Opposite of Cheating Podcast
The premise of The Opposite of Cheating is that the work of teaching and learning experts can and should be applied to the goal of making cheating the exception and integrity the norm.
This podcast brings to life the voices of those experts, along with academic integrity practitioners and just genuinely nice and smart people who have something to say about teaching for integrity in the age of AI.
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Episode 57: Kelly Ahuna
"The future of the asynchronous online class, I think, is really in jeopardy. The classes are fine, but the assessments are completely cooked." "We're not going to win this on compliance. We're not going to win this with students because we say, 'We told you not to.' We have to win it on the value of learning." In this 57th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David is joined by Dr. Kelly Ahuna, Director of the Office of Academic Integrity at the University at Buffalo
5 days ago


Episode 56: Emily Perkins
"I need to find ways to trust them more and invite them to invest in their learning more at this point." "Are we going to be moving away from writing labs and designing more thinking labs when it comes to the classroom?" In this episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David sits down with Dr. Emily Perkins, Associate Director of the Writing Center at Le Moyne College, for a wide-ranging conversation about what happens to writing — and thinking — when AI can produce a pas
Apr 13


Episode 55: Mary Davis & Zeenath Khan
"The shift needs to be about internalizing that [ethical] responsibility within the student." "Do you want to go up and upskill and continue focusing on your learning or do you want to go down and downskill and reduce or eliminate your learning?" In this 55th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia is joined by her co-authors Mary Davis (Oxford Brookes University) and Zeneeth Khan (University of Wollongong, Dubai) to discuss their forthcoming Cambridge University
Apr 6


Episode 54: Adam Pryor
"AI risks becoming that proverbial situation where everything looks like a nail because you've got a hammer in your hand." "The arcane mechanisms of an industrial age model of education that were meant to make human beings who efficiently produced for machines doesn't exist anymore." In this 54th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia sits down with Adam Pryor, Senior Advisor for AI Strategy and Engagement at the Council of Independent Colleges, for a lively and
Mar 30


Episode 52: Mary-Claire Kennedy & Justin Tonra
“I am hopeful about is the the increasing degree to which I've encountered students in in this academic year who are thinking more critically about generative AI use.” “I think pessimistically this is going to take a decade to sort out to find an equilibrium of how we proceed here.” In this 52nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia is joined by fellow "hopeful pessimists" Mary-Claire Kennedy (University of Limerick) and Justin Tonra (University of Galway), two
Mar 16


Episode 49: Jason Lodge
"You can't have an aha moment unless you go through a period of being stuck or struggling or confused before you get there.” “AI will help you get to the finish line, but it's not going to give you the kind of work related positive impact that you would have by going through that process yourself.” In this 49th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David is joined by Professor Jason Lodge (University of Queensland), an educational psychologist and lead author of the Au
Feb 23


Episode 47: Ronald Lethcoe
“We would be doing a disservice to the students if we didn’t at least include AI in the conversation as an institution.” “Digital adaptability — being able to navigate this digital space that’s always changing — is the skill that’s going to be beneficial for anybody in the future.” In this 47th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Ronald Lethcoe reflects on what it means to build AI literacy ethically, intentionally, and institutionally. As an instructional design spe
Feb 10


Episode 46: Soroush Sabbaghan
“Every time you engage with these systems, you gain something—but you also lose something.” “Human agency is your capability to make informed decisions, to act with intention, and to exercise judgment.” What happens when the red lines we draw around generative AI start to blur? In this 46th episode of The Opposite of Cheating, Dr. Soroush Sabbaghan reflects on how he’s crossed the lines he once swore he wouldn’t—assigning AI-generated readings and using AI in student feedback
Feb 2


Episode 45: Nick Potkalitsky
“We missed the mark with social media. We can’t miss it with AI.” “College has to reach down and figure out what students are actually learning instead of just existing in this gap space and resenting K–12.” In this episode, Nick Potkalitsky offers a K–12 lens on AI Literacy, reflecting on how schools, students, and parents are navigating this moment of rapid change—without repeating the mistakes made with social media. Drawing from over 20 years in education, Nick shares how
Jan 26


Episode 42: Mark Watkins
“It was the first time I was introduced to the idea of academic integrity—because I had done something.” “Assessment is broken now that AI’s here. It probably wasn’t in great shape beforehand.” In this 42nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia speaks with Marc Watkins, Assistant Director of Academic Innovation and Lecturer of Writing & Rhetoric at the University of Mississippi, and author of the popular Substack - Rhetorica. After revealing that he learned abou
Jan 5


Episode 40: Emily Pitts Donahoe
"It’s not: do you have integrity or do you not. It’s: are there conditions in place that allow people to act with integrity?” “One of the things that alternative grading can do is to help shift students’ focus from getting grades and generating products to learning and engaging in a learning process.” In this episode, educational developer and writing instructor Emily Pitts Donahoe of the Center for Excellence in Teaching and Learning (CETL) of the University of Mississippi,
Dec 8, 2025


Episode 39: Sonny Ramaswamy
"We've been loathed to change and evaluate ourselves, make sure that we're addressing these fundamental issues and we need to own it." "These are wicked problems and we have the knowledge and the ability, but we are headbutting not willing to come together and come up with a path forward." In this 39th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia speaks with Sonny Ramaswamy, former President of the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities (NWCCU), about the in
Dec 1, 2025


Episode 38: Maha Bali & Hoda Mostafa
"The issue I have is honestly that AI itself is a thief of ideas and doesn't really attribute where it got it from." "When you disclose, you're unpacking your thinking and you're making your thinking visible." In this 38th episode, Dr. Tricia Bertram Gallant is joined by Hoda Mostafa and Maha Bali from the Center for Learning and Teaching at the American University in Cairo (AUC). They explore how academic integrity is shaped by culture, language, and historical context, like
Nov 24, 2025


Episode 36: Cath Ellis
"Assessment and feedback inspires and assures student learning" "Formative, instant feedback, repeatable, and evaluative judgement - that's FIRE" In this 36th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Pro Vice-Chancellor of Quality & Integrity at Western Sydney University Cath Ellis discusses the evolution of educational integrity in Australia, the role of regulatory frameworks like TEQSA, and how scandal and data paved the way for institutional change. She introduces West
Nov 10, 2025


Episode 35: Aviva Legatt
“AI is helping a lot of students to find a voice and at the same time though AI can also completely overtake the student voice.” “Critical thinking, communication, and relationship building… those are pieces of the AI puzzle that AI cannot solve on its own.” In this 35th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David speaks with Aviva Legatt about the growing role of GenAI in higher education—from its use in admissions processes to course design, and institutional governa
Nov 3, 2025


Episode 32: Joseph Brown
“At some point, you have to decide which parts of your course are essential, and which you can let go of.” “Agents aren’t coming—they’re...
Oct 13, 2025


Episode 31: Lance Eaton
“Abstinence doesn’t work. Not for drugs, not for alcohol, and not for AI.” “There’s something deeply dehumanizing about massive lecture...
Oct 6, 2025


Episode 28: Danny Liu
“Faculty development isn’t about tools; it’s about changing how we teach.” “Academic integrity is more than catching misconduct—it’s...
Sep 15, 2025


Episode 26: Christopher Ostro
“The most horrifying student question I see in ChatGPT is: What should I think about this?” "Students don’t care about privacy like we...
Sep 2, 2025


Episode 25: Amanda McKenzie
"Integrity isn’t just for students—it’s about the culture we create in learning, teaching, and working.” “Trust is essential, but it’s...
Aug 4, 2025
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