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The Opposite of Cheating Podcast
The premise of The Opposite of Cheating is that the work of teaching and learning experts can and should be applied to the goal of making cheating the exception and integrity the norm.
This podcast brings to life the voices of those experts, along with academic integrity practitioners and just genuinely nice and smart people who have something to say about teaching for integrity in the age of AI.
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Episode 50: 1st Bookiversary Special Episode!
“People with integrity aren't perfect. They make mistakes, but the what differentiates them from other folks is that they take accountability for those mistakes and they choose to learn and grow from them.” “Also expect some of the stuff to fail miserably, right? Because nothing nothing complicated or worth doing works. the first time.” This special episode (#50) marks the first anniversary of The Opposite of Cheating (University of Oklahoma Press), published in March 2025! T
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Episode 49: Jason Lodge
"You can't have an aha moment unless you go through a period of being stuck or struggling or confused before you get there.” “AI will help you get to the finish line, but it's not going to give you the kind of work related positive impact that you would have by going through that process yourself.” In this 49th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David is joined by Professor Jason Lodge (University of Queensland), an educational psychologist and lead author of the Au
Feb 23
Episode 48: Craig Zilles
“I’m an AI optimist long-term—but it’s creating an enormous problem in the short term around assessment.” “The automation allows us to shift the humans to do those things humans do better—like inspiration and one-on-one interaction.” In this 48th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Craig Zilles (Computer Science Professor, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign) shares a compelling case for computer-based testing facilities (CBTF) as essential infrastructure for mod
Feb 16
Episode 45: Nick Potkalitsky
“We missed the mark with social media. We can’t miss it with AI.” “College has to reach down and figure out what students are actually learning instead of just existing in this gap space and resenting K–12.” In this episode, Nick Potkalitsky offers a K–12 lens on AI Literacy, reflecting on how schools, students, and parents are navigating this moment of rapid change—without repeating the mistakes made with social media. Drawing from over 20 years in education, Nick shares how
Jan 26
Episode 43: Tim Fawns
“We need to be a little bit careful—if we put all our eggs in the assurance and academic integrity basket, then we’re at risk of forgetting some of the other really important parts of education.” “Some of the ways in which we deal with academic integrity actually do the opposite of cultivating integrity.” What is academic integrity in 2025—and how do we build learning environments that support it? In this 43rd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Australian educator a
Jan 12
Episode 41: Thomas J. Tobin
“I started out as an academic integrity prescriptivist. I was the hard-nosed.” “There’s really only three main ways that we can ask students to demonstrate academic integrity: Trust, Verification, Observation.” In this 41st episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David talks with Thomas J. Tobin, an educational developer and consultant with decades of experience, to challenge the punitive paradigms that dominate academic integrity conversations. Sharing his personal tran
Dec 15, 2025
Episode 36: Cath Ellis
"Assessment and feedback inspires and assures student learning" "Formative, instant feedback, repeatable, and evaluative judgement - that's FIRE" In this 36th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Pro Vice-Chancellor of Quality & Integrity at Western Sydney University Cath Ellis discusses the evolution of educational integrity in Australia, the role of regulatory frameworks like TEQSA, and how scandal and data paved the way for institutional change. She introduces West
Nov 10, 2025
Episode 33: Phil Newton
"Students are human and humans cheat.” "If you make it easy for people to do, then it's more likely to happen." In this thought-provoking 33rd episode of The Opposite of Cheating, David speaks with Phil Newton, neuroscientist and academic integrity researcher at Swansea University in Wales. Phil brings a rare blend of scientific rigor and pedagogical insight to the conversation, reflecting on how memory, motivation, and fairness intersect with cheating, assessment, and the ri
Oct 20, 2025
Episode 28: Danny Liu
“Faculty development isn’t about tools; it’s about changing how we teach.” “Academic integrity is more than catching misconduct—it’s...
Sep 15, 2025
Episode 26: Christopher Ostro
“The most horrifying student question I see in ChatGPT is: What should I think about this?” "Students don’t care about privacy like we...
Sep 2, 2025
Episode 18: Shaun Lehmann
In our book, we emphasize that the majority of the strategies explored (other than assessment security) will not stop cheating among...
Jun 4, 2025
Episode 16: Kane Murdoch
Join David and Kane Murdoch as they discuss Kane's thoughts on contract cheating, centralizing misconduct functions, and his program,...
May 26, 2025
Episode 11: HuiHui Qi
Tricia talks to UC San Diego Associate Teaching Professor HuiHui Qi about her amazing implementation of all of the strategies we talk...
May 5, 2025
Episode 9: Joseph Thibault
Joe and David talk about (among other things) ways to improve assessment security without increasing friction in the student experience....
Apr 28, 2025
Episode 2: Phill Dawson
Phill's work is impactful and prodigious. You can find links to some of his favorite and most important materials here: Google Scholar...
Mar 25, 2025
Episode 1: Will Styler
Will Styler is Program Director, Computational Social Science & Associate Teaching Professor of Linguistics at UCSD. His work includes...
Mar 15, 2025
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